{"id":1511,"date":"2019-06-16T05:03:24","date_gmt":"2019-06-16T05:03:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/envyride.com\/?p=1511"},"modified":"2022-03-20T11:15:25","modified_gmt":"2022-03-20T11:15:25","slug":"turbowheel-lightning-vs-zero-10x-vs-t10-ddm-review-comparison","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/envyride.com\/turbowheel-lightning-vs-zero-10x-vs-t10-ddm-review-comparison\/","title":{"rendered":"TurboWheel Lightning VS Zero 10x VS T10-DDM – Review & Comparison"},"content":{"rendered":"

TABLE OF CONTENTS<\/h3>
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The full and complete comparison between the TurboWheel lightning, Zero 10x, the T10-DDM, and beyond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This review might look a bit different in comparison to the ones you usually see here. Normally, I have one scooter and I give you my thoughts on it. But not this time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Why?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Because the first two models from Zero and TurboWheel are just rebranded of the UniCool T10-DDM F08 model, Unicool(Titan Group) is the factory producing these scooters back in China.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That said, whichever model you choose to buy there is little difference between them. Below we compare the specifics and go through why they are different despite being from the same manufacturer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"TurboWheel<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Side-by-side Comparison<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

All details are taken with the scooters using the same battery, LG 52V\/22.4Ah(1165Wh).<\/p>\n\n\n\r\n

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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n<\/div>\r\n
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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n <\/div>\r\n\r\n <\/div>\r\n
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\r\n BUY NOW<\/span><\/a> \r\n <\/div> \r\n
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Here is a list that highlights the specifics stated by each company. Have a look and then let’s dissect them below the table.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\t\n\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t\n\t
Model<\/th>TurboWheel Lightning<\/th>Zero 10X<\/th>T10DDM<\/th>Same?<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
Speed(mph)<\/td>35-40<\/td>40<\/td>35<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Distance(miles)<\/td>46<\/td>68<\/td>45<\/td>\ud83d\uded1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Weight(lbs)<\/td>77<\/td>77<\/td>77<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Battery<\/td>LG 52V\/22.4Ah<\/td>LG 52V\/24Ah<\/td>LG 52V\/24Ah<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Tires<\/td>10\" x 2.5\"<\/td>10\" x 3\" (off-road available)<\/td>10\" x 2.5\"<\/td>\ud83d\uded1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Price($)<\/td>2,050<\/td>1,600<\/td>Factory (Bulk purchasing)<\/td>\ud83d\uded1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Motor(Watt(Total Peak))<\/td>2 x 1000(3600)<\/td>2 x 1000(3600)<\/td>2 x 1000(3600)<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Brakes<\/td>Front\/rear disc brake<\/td>Front\/rear disc brake<\/td>Front\/rear disc brake<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Suspension<\/td>Front\/rear spring hydraulic suspension<\/td>Front\/rear spring hydraulic suspension<\/td>Front\/rear spring hydraulic suspension<\/td>\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
Size Unfolded
\nFolded(L x W x H, inch)<\/td>		50.4 x 26.7 x 48
\n50.4 x 26.7 x 19.8<\/td>		50.4 x 26.7 x 48
\n50.4 x 26.7 x 19.8<\/td>		50.4 x 26.7 x 48
\n50.4 x 26.7 x 19.8<\/td>		\u2714<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n

The key takeaway from the comparison above, there are no real differences between these 3 scooters except price and the slight difference in the use of tires. Before you go attacking my numbers above those are the numbers stated by each company and some are just plain wrong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Let me explain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Different battery capacity?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Nope, they probably just had a hard time with the quick maths. I talked to my contact Jason over at E-wheels and he quickly acknowledged that my speculations were correct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Long story short, all models being equipped with the high capacity battery from LG use LG MH1 3.2Ah cells. They are configured in the same fashion. 14 cells in series with 7 parallels providing you with a battery pack with 98pcs of 18650 cells. Multiply the number of parallels with the total ampere-hours of each parallel and you get the total ampere-hour, 7p x 3.2Ah = 22.4Ah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The conclusion is that each of these battery packs used is the same, so they all have the same amount of ampere-hours per pack. Titan group who manufacture these scooters have failed to calculate this correctly and retailer FalconPEV who rebrand them into Zero scooters have just taken them by their words.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Simple as that and I am not really surprised. I myself have bought lots of stuff from China before and even though they assemble the parts together, they don\u2019t always have all the facts straight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I learned that the hard way.<\/p>\n\n\n\r\n

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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n<\/div>\r\n
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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n <\/div>\r\n\r\n <\/div>\r\n
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\r\n BUY NOW<\/span><\/a> \r\n <\/div> \r\n
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The difference in distance per charge and speed<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

If you had 5 companies testing the same scooter writing its top speed and maximum distance per charge you\u2019d probably get 5 different numbers. Not because they lie. Well, some do, but that is probably not the case here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The problem here is that there are so many different variables in a test ride that might alter the output. Hence, using the same type of machine to test the specifics or calculating using numbers is the best way to make it as honest and accurate as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A general rule of thumb I like to use when calculating is that one mile equals 25Wh of the total battery capacity. The total capacity of the LG battery is 1165Wh, 1165Wh\/25Wh equals 46.2 miles which is what you can expect by a rider of around 160 lbs riding at a steady 20 mph on a smooth highway without any wind. Just by my last sentence there you can probably see why personal real-life tests might differ a lot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think Zero just got it all wrong here. Or is it just because Asian people tend to be much shorter and lighter than people in the US?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I don’t know, but their numbers look very ambitious to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But who knows, it might be possible. A bit of downhill, a light rider in combination with a couple of kicks to get the speed up when starting out and really using the regenerative braking to its fullest extent will go a long way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"TurboWheel<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n

Price difference<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

This is the only accurate stat that separates these electric scooters. The T10DDM can probably be found cheaper from less reliable brands, with little to no, or very complicated after-sales service. Nothing that I recommend as it always seems that problems will get price evened out or surpass the sales price from a more reputable retailer in the long run.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The markets and economy of South Korea and the USA are also very different and hence the price tags will reflect that difference.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now that we have determined that all that separates these models apart is the different names and price, we can continue into our review of the T10-DDM.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Review<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

With the T10-DDM, Zero 10x, or Turbowheel Lightning, or whatever you want to call it or wherever you choose to buy it. You will get a really good electric scooter. One of the best models on the market I would dare to say, without having to pay the premium price for it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The scooter itself is built of high-quality material which renders it very sturdy and capable of handling a good amount of load without you having to worry about it breaking down on you while riding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Due to the impressive 3.6kW motors, you get a crazy amount of torque and it can handle most hills without any problem whatsoever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This is especially true if you\u2019re utilizing its full power through the dual-motor mode instead of the single\/economy mode. The last-mentioned modes are made for saving energy on longer hauls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The scooter has different speed modes that let you set the top speed to certain limits. This is really good while riding in the city where speed limits might be an issue, or if you\u2019re riding through crowded places like a town square where having better throttle control and being able to quickly stop is important.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

With a battery of this caliber, 52v\/22.4Ah lithium-ion, you get enough juice to power its two 1000w motors for up to 45 miles on a single charge. That is if driven under perfect operating conditions. Under more normal riding conditions with some hills and taking acceleration\/deceleration into consideration, I would expect something around 30 miles on a full charge to be really good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The scooter doesn’t just have a really good range. It is also among the fastest and with its 40 mph top speed it received a good spot among the top models in our fastest electric scooter comparison.<\/p>\n\n\n\r\n

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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n<\/div>\r\n
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\r\n TurboWheel Lightning 2000W<\/a>\r\n <\/div>\r\n\r\n <\/div>\r\n
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\r\n BUY NOW<\/span><\/a> \r\n <\/div> \r\n
\r\n \r\n Shareasale-analytics.com <\/small>\r\n <\/div>\r\n \r\n\r\n <\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n <\/div> \r\n\r\n \r\n<\/div>\r\n\n\n\n\n

Specification<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
Specification<\/th>Details<\/th><\/tr><\/thead>
Speed<\/td>40 mph<\/td><\/tr>
Range<\/td>45 mi<\/td><\/tr>
Battery<\/td>Lithium-ion 52V\/22.4Ah<\/td><\/tr>
Motor<\/td>2 x 1000W hub motor(3600W peak)<\/td><\/tr>
Weight<\/td>77 lbs<\/td><\/tr>
Tires<\/td>10\u201d air-filled tires<\/td><\/tr>
Max Weight<\/td>330 lbs<\/td><\/tr>
Hill-Climbing Abilities<\/td>25 degrees<\/td><\/tr>
Charging Time<\/td>Up to 6-7 hours recharge time <\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n \t\n\n\n\n\n

Where & which model to buy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Where you buy the scooter mostly depends on where you live. The Turbowheel Lightning, as of right now, is only available to people within the USA through E-wheels. If you’re in the US I highly suggest you go with the Turbowheel model as you will have one of the best after-sales service experiences available, just in case.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Zero 10x is more widespread and mainly available from its creator FalconPev in Asia and a couple of other vendors throughout Europe.<\/p>\n\n\n\r\n

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